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		<title>By: Rapid productionising &#8211; a more flexible approach to requirements gathering &#171; Shermo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rapid productionising &#8211; a more flexible approach to requirements gathering &#171; Shermo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 23:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] colleague PEG discusses in his post Why we can&#8217;t keep up, we&#8217;re not a in a period where business cycles are reasonably static. We&#8217;re in a period [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Breaking the nexus &#8211; IT delivery at the speed of business &#171; Shermo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breaking the nexus &#8211; IT delivery at the speed of business &#171; Shermo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my colleague PEG discusses in his “Why we can’t keep up” post business and IT cycles have become misaligned. IT departments are typically geared to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maximo Neira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maximo Neira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business-IT Nirvana does not exist. If it ever did, now is further away than ever.&lt;br&gt;I would kindly invite you to read my post about it at &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nirvana-does-not-exist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nir...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business-IT Nirvana does not exist. If it ever did, now is further away than ever.<br />I would kindly invite you to read my post about it at <br /><a href="http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nirvana-does-not-exist/" rel="nofollow">http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nir&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: MaxNeira</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxNeira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Business-IT Nirvana does not exist. If it ever did, now is further away than ever.&lt;br&gt;I would kindly invite you to read my post about it at &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nirvana-does-not-exist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nir...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business-IT Nirvana does not exist. If it ever did, now is further away than ever.<br />I would kindly invite you to read my post about it at <br /><a href="http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nirvana-does-not-exist/" rel="nofollow">http://align4survival.pleyad.es/it-business-nir&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martijn Linssen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martijn Linssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess you like cars ;-)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Silver bullet, it just reminded me of this other &quot;new&quot; thing: ESB and SOA. Again, right about now, I&#039;m reading about a national government agency that wants an enterprise-wide Service Bus &quot;to glue it all together&quot; (my own words) and create an agile, flexible service oriented architecture (yawn)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, how well have they thought about the different departments, each dealing with different business pieces, consumer sub-markets, various government (other parts of the government of course) regulations, different timings (8/5, 12/6, 24/7) etc?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The ESB must support SOAP over JMS outside, and SOAP over HTTP inside. Described in WSDL. Now I know exactly what they mean, but they don&#039;t have a clue themselves&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where&#039;s the business agreements going through? How do we get from nothing to perfect by just agreeing on the fact that we&#039;ll speak English. I mean, which English? British? Welsh? Scottish? Irish? Which dialect? Australian, American, Kiwi-an? Is Dunglish and Frenglish allowed as well?&lt;br&gt;Not a word about how to collect enterprise-wide services (= interfaces). How to describe them. How to maintain them. How to version them. How to have them fit-for-purpose for applications, consumers and businesses&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s going to be a long, heavy, dirty and political fight, and my company will seriously miss out on throwing consultants at this by the dozen, but I&#039;m going to go all the way in order to stop this madness before they even try to detail design it&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am blaming the rise of architecture as a profession and institution for this. 10 Years ago people would just get fired or figuratively shot for silly ideas like these, and rightfully so&lt;br&gt;Now, these ideas are pinballed by and through CIO offices and Chief Enterprise Architects and Boards for months and years, and whatever factor of 100 pages rolls out because the money ran dry, it&#039;s become a fact of life, no matter how unpragmatic, inefficient, unflexible and guaranteed-to-not-ROI it is, and their will must be done&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, I do get excited every now and then. I&#039;m an Enterprise Integration Architect, and I loathe the current way decisions are rolled down from the top through impermeable layers of management&lt;br&gt;We don&#039;t do IAD, RAD, RUP or Agile. We still LAD through our architectural and CIO departments. And that&#039;s just dead wrong&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry for this long comment, but thanks for the inspiration ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess you like cars <img src='http://peter.evans-greenwood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Silver bullet, it just reminded me of this other &#8220;new&#8221; thing: ESB and SOA. Again, right about now, I&#39;m reading about a national government agency that wants an enterprise-wide Service Bus &#8220;to glue it all together&#8221; (my own words) and create an agile, flexible service oriented architecture (yawn)</p>
<p>Now, how well have they thought about the different departments, each dealing with different business pieces, consumer sub-markets, various government (other parts of the government of course) regulations, different timings (8/5, 12/6, 24/7) etc?</p>
<p>The ESB must support SOAP over JMS outside, and SOAP over HTTP inside. Described in WSDL. Now I know exactly what they mean, but they don&#39;t have a clue themselves</p>
<p>Where&#39;s the business agreements going through? How do we get from nothing to perfect by just agreeing on the fact that we&#39;ll speak English. I mean, which English? British? Welsh? Scottish? Irish? Which dialect? Australian, American, Kiwi-an? Is Dunglish and Frenglish allowed as well?<br />Not a word about how to collect enterprise-wide services (= interfaces). How to describe them. How to maintain them. How to version them. How to have them fit-for-purpose for applications, consumers and businesses</p>
<p>It&#39;s going to be a long, heavy, dirty and political fight, and my company will seriously miss out on throwing consultants at this by the dozen, but I&#39;m going to go all the way in order to stop this madness before they even try to detail design it</p>
<p>I am blaming the rise of architecture as a profession and institution for this. 10 Years ago people would just get fired or figuratively shot for silly ideas like these, and rightfully so<br />Now, these ideas are pinballed by and through CIO offices and Chief Enterprise Architects and Boards for months and years, and whatever factor of 100 pages rolls out because the money ran dry, it&#39;s become a fact of life, no matter how unpragmatic, inefficient, unflexible and guaranteed-to-not-ROI it is, and their will must be done</p>
<p>Yes, I do get excited every now and then. I&#39;m an Enterprise Integration Architect, and I loathe the current way decisions are rolled down from the top through impermeable layers of management<br />We don&#39;t do IAD, RAD, RUP or Agile. We still LAD through our architectural and CIO departments. And that&#39;s just dead wrong</p>
<p>Sorry for this long comment, but thanks for the inspiration <img src='http://peter.evans-greenwood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peter Evans-Greenwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Evans-Greenwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 05:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely agree. There was this bloke who wrote some book about the inefficacy of silver bullets...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your comment reminds me of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnet.com.au/mclaren-designer-gordon-murray-creating-an-eco-city-car-339290436.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comment by Gordon Murray&lt;/a&gt;, better known for designing the McLaren Formula 1 cars. He pointed out that fuel efficient cars that are fun to drive are easy to make: they just need to be small and light. There&#039;s no magic bullet that will endow Hummers (or other over inflated SUVs) with a small carbon footprint; technology can only chip away at the edges.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If enterprise IT were a Formula 1 car, then it would be something like the &lt;a href-=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W196&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mercedes-Benz W196&lt;/a&gt;, good in its day but heavy and slow based on what is possible today. Bolting a supercharger onto the W196 will not make it competitive with an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mclaren.com/f1season/2009/presspack09/tech-spec.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MP4-24&lt;/a&gt;. It might accelerate a bit better, but the cornering and breaks will still be somewhat lacking.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to rethink the architecture of your business. It might still have four wheels and one driver, but everything else should be up for grabs. New, lighter and stiffer, materials (such as SaaS and Web 2.0) let us strip weight out of our business, creating something which the W196 will be unable to compete against.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just another argument for the Business-Technology story :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree. There was this bloke who wrote some book about the inefficacy of silver bullets&#8230;</p>
<p>Your comment reminds me of a <a href="http://www.cnet.com.au/mclaren-designer-gordon-murray-creating-an-eco-city-car-339290436.htm" rel="nofollow">comment by Gordon Murray</a>, better known for designing the McLaren Formula 1 cars. He pointed out that fuel efficient cars that are fun to drive are easy to make: they just need to be small and light. There&#39;s no magic bullet that will endow Hummers (or other over inflated SUVs) with a small carbon footprint; technology can only chip away at the edges.</p>
<p>If enterprise IT were a Formula 1 car, then it would be something like the <a href-="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_W196" rel="nofollow">Mercedes-Benz W196</a>, good in its day but heavy and slow based on what is possible today. Bolting a supercharger onto the W196 will not make it competitive with an <a href="http://www.mclaren.com/f1season/2009/presspack09/tech-spec.php" rel="nofollow">MP4-24</a>. It might accelerate a bit better, but the cornering and breaks will still be somewhat lacking.</p>
<p>You need to rethink the architecture of your business. It might still have four wheels and one driver, but everything else should be up for grabs. New, lighter and stiffer, materials (such as SaaS and Web 2.0) let us strip weight out of our business, creating something which the W196 will be unable to compete against.</p>
<p>Just another argument for the Business-Technology story <img src='http://peter.evans-greenwood.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Martijn Linssen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martijn Linssen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Peter, in many ways&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We did automate it all, on an ever growing scale. Then, we found out we had to govern it all as well. Maintain, change, retest, re-release, OMG&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CRM and ERP were the next answers: one big carpet for all, amen. Well, that didn&#039;t work either. And, in the meantime, not only did the degree of automation explode within the company, but also the size of the IT department&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, that didn&#039;t help either, creating one big elephant and still having to tweak and tune bits of that, that&#039;s where the conflicting cycles really start to hurt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agile fixes some of these problems, although most Agile evangelists think documentation is evil period. I think reverse documentation during / after the go-live can be very cost efficient. Applications / federations without documentation, now that&#039;s evil&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Turning your organisation into a network, business and IT-wise, will help too. I complained in a blog post about the size of IBM (no shares myself indeed), can anyone tell me how to move a 400K people company in any direction?&lt;br&gt;Integration will help glue the parts back together, make them sourceable, shoreable, cloudable, buyable and sellable&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, last but not least, we always always all of us make the mistake to &quot;fix&quot; an organisational or business problem by wheeling a flashy, techy solution. Preferrably by a third party...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Peter, in many ways</p>
<p>We did automate it all, on an ever growing scale. Then, we found out we had to govern it all as well. Maintain, change, retest, re-release, OMG</p>
<p>CRM and ERP were the next answers: one big carpet for all, amen. Well, that didn&#39;t work either. And, in the meantime, not only did the degree of automation explode within the company, but also the size of the IT department</p>
<p>Well, that didn&#39;t help either, creating one big elephant and still having to tweak and tune bits of that, that&#39;s where the conflicting cycles really start to hurt</p>
<p>Agile fixes some of these problems, although most Agile evangelists think documentation is evil period. I think reverse documentation during / after the go-live can be very cost efficient. Applications / federations without documentation, now that&#39;s evil</p>
<p>Turning your organisation into a network, business and IT-wise, will help too. I complained in a blog post about the size of IBM (no shares myself indeed), can anyone tell me how to move a 400K people company in any direction?<br />Integration will help glue the parts back together, make them sourceable, shoreable, cloudable, buyable and sellable</p>
<p>And, last but not least, we always always all of us make the mistake to &#8220;fix&#8221; an organisational or business problem by wheeling a flashy, techy solution. Preferrably by a third party&#8230;</p>
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